From kfields at ucalgary.ca Thu Nov 26 17:25:54 2015 From: kfields at ucalgary.ca (Kenneth Fields) Date: Thu Nov 26 17:26:06 2015 Subject: [Stremes-l] Stremes List 2015 Message-ID: <75F38D79-BE3C-4129-89BB-540A590306EC@ucalgary.ca> Dear Stremes, Just wondering if this list is alive and still open to discussion on general issues about network music performance. Please feel free to post an update on your recent activities and interesting findings. Happy Thanksgiving! Ken Kenneth Fields, Ph.D. Professor Computer Music CEMC - China Electronic Music Center Central Conservatory of Music 43 BaoJia Street Beijing 100031 China, Email: ken@ccom.edu.cn http://syneme.ccom.edu.cn Tel: 13701188130 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.ucalgary.ca/pipermail/stremes-l/attachments/20151127/187b7ea1/attachment.html From roger at eartrumpet.org Fri Nov 27 16:03:27 2015 From: roger at eartrumpet.org (Roger Mills) Date: Fri Nov 27 16:03:38 2015 Subject: [Stremes-l] Re: stremes-L Digest, Vol 16, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: <20151127160023.E5C4B43E2@mailman.ucalgary.ca> References: <20151127160023.E5C4B43E2@mailman.ucalgary.ca> Message-ID: Since becoming a list member I don?t think I have ever seen anything posted on here but would be interested in contributing. I sometimes post to Net Behaviour list and the Networked Performance facebook group as they have a regular group of interlocutors but apart from you and I Ken, there is little engagement with issues related specifically to networked music in these groups. Roger -- Dr Roger Mills Musician, Academic and Media Sound Artist http://www.eartrumpet.org http://ethernetorchestra.net http://telesound.net "Knowledge is only rumour until it is in the muscle" - Asaro Mudmen, Papua New Guinea. > On 28 Nov 2015, at 3:00 am, stremes-l-request@mailman.ucalgary.ca wrote: > > Send stremes-L mailing list submissions to > stremes-l@mailman.ucalgary.ca > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.ucalgary.ca/mailman/listinfo/stremes-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > stremes-l-request@mailman.ucalgary.ca > > You can reach the person managing the list at > stremes-l-owner@mailman.ucalgary.ca > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of stremes-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Stremes List 2015 (Kenneth Fields) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 08:25:54 +0800 > From: Kenneth Fields > Subject: [Stremes-l] Stremes List 2015 > To: stremes-l@mailman.ucalgary.ca > Message-ID: <75F38D79-BE3C-4129-89BB-540A590306EC@ucalgary.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear Stremes, > Just wondering if this list is alive and still open to discussion > on general issues about network music performance. > > Please feel free to post an update on your recent activities and > interesting findings. > > Happy Thanksgiving! > > Ken > > > > > Kenneth Fields, Ph.D. > Professor Computer Music > CEMC - China Electronic Music Center > Central Conservatory of Music > 43 BaoJia Street > Beijing 100031 China, > > Email: ken@ccom.edu.cn > http://syneme.ccom.edu.cn > Tel: 13701188130 > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://mailman.ucalgary.ca/pipermail/stremes-l/attachments/20151127/187b7ea1/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > This message was sent to all subscribers of stremes-L > To unsubscribe, see instructions at: > http://www.ucalgary.ca/it/email/mailman > > E-mail: stremes-L@mailman.ucalgary.ca > Homepage: http://mailman.ucalgary.ca/mailman/listinfo/stremes-l > > > End of stremes-L Digest, Vol 16, Issue 1 > **************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.ucalgary.ca/pipermail/stremes-l/attachments/20151128/d7fec81d/attachment.html From kfields at ucalgary.ca Sun Nov 29 19:14:47 2015 From: kfields at ucalgary.ca (Kenneth Fields) Date: Sun Nov 29 19:15:03 2015 Subject: [Stremes-l] Discourse and Collaboration In-Reply-To: References: <20151127160023.E5C4B43E2@mailman.ucalgary.ca> Message-ID: Hi Roger, Yes, the lists you mention are good engines for general discourse on networked art. Personally, I have been missing a more active/collaborative platform for practical problems related to LIVE network music/artistic performance; a necessarily smaller group focused on the creative and technical problems we face in and around production. Thus, not specifically about jacktrip, ffmpeg, oscgroups or jackaudio - all of which have good user and dev lists of their own. For example: http://webaudio.gatech.edu/ Would anyone be up for a multi-node concert for this event - April 4-6. I?ve made the proposal, but the organizers (incl Jason Freeman) seem to be caught between their role as local music dept and concert organizers - being hesitant to put themselves forward as participant outside the peer review process. My limitation (in China) is the IPV6 issue, and they said that the conference is happening in an older building on the GaTech campus. Not sure if they meant that Internet2 (IPV4) would not be an option at all, though that would be strange given the context. Even if I were to physically go (likely anyway), I would be hesitant to anchor something like that outside my own studio/school. They would need to locate local musician/performers - for the live local component - not just screens. Any comments? Jason Freeman and Frank Clark are the local parties. Frank Clark (chair music dept), initially responded positively. Looking forward to where the stremes-l takes us. Feel free to notify our live network music performance peers about the list. See the current members of this list here: http://mailman.ucalgary.ca/mailman/listinfo/stremes-l Ken > On Nov 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Roger Mills wrote: > > Since becoming a list member I don?t think I have ever seen anything posted on here but would be interested in contributing. > > I sometimes post to Net Behaviour list and the Networked Performance facebook group as they have a regular group of interlocutors but apart from you and I Ken, there is little engagement with issues related specifically to networked music in these groups. > > > Roger > > > > -- > Dr Roger Mills > Musician, Academic and Media Sound Artist > > http://www.eartrumpet.org > http://ethernetorchestra.net > http://telesound.net > > "Knowledge is only rumour until it is in the muscle" - Asaro Mudmen, Papua New Guinea. > >> On 28 Nov 2015, at 3:00 am, stremes-l-request@mailman.ucalgary.ca wrote: >> >> Send stremes-L mailing list submissions to >> stremes-l@mailman.ucalgary.ca >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mailman.ucalgary.ca/mailman/listinfo/stremes-l >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> stremes-l-request@mailman.ucalgary.ca >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> stremes-l-owner@mailman.ucalgary.ca >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of stremes-L digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Stremes List 2015 (Kenneth Fields) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 08:25:54 +0800 >> From: Kenneth Fields >> Subject: [Stremes-l] Stremes List 2015 >> To: stremes-l@mailman.ucalgary.ca >> Message-ID: <75F38D79-BE3C-4129-89BB-540A590306EC@ucalgary.ca> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Dear Stremes, >> Just wondering if this list is alive and still open to discussion >> on general issues about network music performance. >> >> Please feel free to post an update on your recent activities and >> interesting findings. >> >> Happy Thanksgiving! >> >> Ken >> >> >> >> >> Kenneth Fields, Ph.D. >> Professor Computer Music >> CEMC - China Electronic Music Center >> Central Conservatory of Music >> 43 BaoJia Street >> Beijing 100031 China, >> >> Email: ken@ccom.edu.cn >> http://syneme.ccom.edu.cn >> Tel: 13701188130 >> >> >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: http://mailman.ucalgary.ca/pipermail/stremes-l/attachments/20151127/187b7ea1/attachment-0001.html >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This message was sent to all subscribers of stremes-L >> To unsubscribe, see instructions at: >> http://www.ucalgary.ca/it/email/mailman >> >> E-mail: stremes-L@mailman.ucalgary.ca >> Homepage: http://mailman.ucalgary.ca/mailman/listinfo/stremes-l >> >> >> End of stremes-L Digest, Vol 16, Issue 1 >> **************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > This message was sent to all subscribers of stremes-L > To unsubscribe, see instructions at: > http://www.ucalgary.ca/it/email/mailman > > E-mail: stremes-L@mailman.ucalgary.ca > Homepage: http://mailman.ucalgary.ca/mailman/listinfo/stremes-l -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.ucalgary.ca/pipermail/stremes-l/attachments/20151130/d92571f2/attachment.html From kfields at ucalgary.ca Mon Nov 30 17:18:48 2015 From: kfields at ucalgary.ca (Kenneth Fields) Date: Mon Nov 30 17:19:02 2015 Subject: [Stremes-l] bandwidth Message-ID: <13796518-9B06-4265-9D88-CC4D7A21FA5B@ucalgary.ca> Hi Helen, The extra headroom of university grade networks (1gig) mostly helps with multiple HD video streams. Stereo uncompressed audio can be done on less than 10M (up and down) with one or two people. However, I assume your feeling of being bandwidth challenged is not just about paying for a premium bandwidth package yourself, but that your practice is based around audience participation and the low-data server based platform you guys developed - as well as the aesthetic that emerged as a consequence. We all have different situations. CERNET2 in China (china edu research network) is ipv6 only. I?m ?stuck' on next generation networks without much of a real internet (blocked). So my practice is heavily P2P with whoever can negotiate IPV6 upgrades with their IT depts. Anyway, we?re probably just around the corner from ubiquitous ipv6 1 gig bandwidth for everyone - thanks to google fibre pushing the competition. Then in the future, we can all get nostalgic remembering how we could possibly have survived in the good old days with only 1 pitiful gig of bandwidth - when data crawled along at a speed significantly slower than the speed of light. Ken -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.ucalgary.ca/pipermail/stremes-l/attachments/20151201/6f335a56/attachment.html